{"id":4646,"date":"2013-09-26T07:10:46","date_gmt":"2013-09-26T07:10:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/?p=4646"},"modified":"2013-09-11T12:29:00","modified_gmt":"2013-09-11T12:29:00","slug":"the-tuesday-club","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/50plus\/the-tuesday-club\/","title":{"rendered":"The Tuesday Club"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-4658 alignright\" style=\"border: 0px; margin: 5px;\" alt=\"TuesdayAfternoon\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/TuesdayAfternoon.png?resize=258%2C91\" width=\"258\" height=\"91\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Finding names for things is a real challenge.<\/p>\n<p>Take Gardening as an example \u2013 there seems to be an infinite variety in plants and most of them have names. I struggle to identify what is a weed and what is a proper plant, never mind their names, especially when they are in Latin.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Maxime Planta Nomina Sunt Facta &#8211; My theory is that 45% of plant names are made up on the spot.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Christ used to describe himself as \u201cThe Son of Man\u201d (recorded 88 times in the gospels), which was a clear reference to Daniel 7 vs. 13-14 and the Jews of that era would have been intimately familiar with the phrase and to whom it referred. Jesus was proclaiming Himself as the Messiah.<\/p>\n<p>So how are we, his followers to identify ourselves then?<\/p>\n<p>The disciples called each other, &#8220;brethren&#8221;, &#8220;disciples&#8221;, &#8220;apostles&#8221;, &#8220;servants&#8221;, &#8220;believers&#8221;, &#8220;followers&#8221;, &#8220;the faithful&#8221;, &#8220;the elect&#8221;, &#8220;the called&#8221;, and &#8220;saints.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We can also identify ourselves as &#8220;bondservants&#8221; of Christ.\u00a0(This is in the <a href=\"http:\/\/cvm.org.uk\/thecodebible\">Code Bible<\/a> &#8211; I was awake and listening when Carl gave a talk at The Edge Camp in August).<\/p>\n<p>The problem is that most of these biblical words will not mean anything to those outside of the church.<\/p>\n<p>This means we refer to ourselves as Christians \u2013 which is a bit odd as it was a name originally intended as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ecclesia.org\/truth\/christian.html\">derogatory description<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>At no point did the writers of the New Testament describe themselves as Christian.\u00a0Unfortunately calling ourselves Christians will offend some people.<\/p>\n<p>The problem here is that there are parts of our society where the term Christian has very negative associations, probably because of the past behaviours and actions of those calling themselves Christian or all the things they publicly oppose. (Christians appear to be against any kind of pleasure or any group of people who are different).<\/p>\n<p>Increasingly we see people calling themselves \u201cfollowers of Christ\u201d, which is accurate and does not carry the baggage that \u201cChristian\u201d does.<\/p>\n<p>My church used to have a 50 Plus Group (I suspect some lied about their ages).\u00a0It has been renamed to \u201cThe Tuesday Club\u201d, however everyone still thinks of it as the over 50\u2019s and it still meets on a Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p>You may be aware that the CVM 50 Plus group is looking for a new name.\u00a0Finding a good name is a real challenge, so any (clean, non-derogatory or ageist) suggestions would be welcomed.<\/p>\n<p>Roger \u2013 a follower of Jesus<\/p>\n<div class=\"linkwithin_hook\" id=\"https:\/\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/50plus\/the-tuesday-club\/\"><\/div><script>\n<!-- \/\/LinkWithinCodeStart\nvar linkwithin_site_id = 897245;\nvar linkwithin_div_class = \"linkwithin_hook\";\n\/\/LinkWithinCodeEnd -->\n<\/script>\n<script src=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/widget.js\"><\/script>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.linkwithin.com\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.linkwithin.com\/pixel.png?w=750\" alt=\"Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...\" style=\"border: 0\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Finding names for things is a real challenge. Take Gardening as an example \u2013 there seems to be an infinite variety in plants and most of them have names. I struggle to identify what is a weed and what is a proper plant, never mind their names, especially when they are in Latin. 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The men and women who taught me mountaineering did\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;50 Plus&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/matt-28.png?fit=560%2C315&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":3711,"url":"https:\/\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/50plus\/how-would-you-react\/","url_meta":{"origin":4646,"position":2},"title":"How would you react?","date":"14 February 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"What would your reaction be if Jesus turned up at your place of work, the local social club, at your retirement home or was seen wandering around the streets of our towns and cities?\u00a0How would you respond if Jesus tapped you on the shoulder and said I need you as\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;50 Plus&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/CVM-50plus-blog-640x360.jpg?fit=640%2C360&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":9917,"url":"https:\/\/www.cvm.org.uk\/blog\/50plus\/if-i-was-a-butterfly\/","url_meta":{"origin":4646,"position":3},"title":"If I was a butterfly","date":"13 September 2022","format":false,"excerpt":"I love photography and over the years have taken many photographs, capturing all the usual suspects, family and friends, special occasions, wedding baptisms and so on. 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